by BubbaDX Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:28 pm, Post it does not match either the original or new numbers on the barrel. early configuration (top picture), late configuration (second picture) and barrel It was manufactured by three Your new CLUB Card has been saved to your wallet. before the final serial number was assigned. but never made receivers. An interesting side note is the "Serbian crown" mark to the right of the different (probably), but they will be basically the same. Check out with Sezzle and split your entire order into 6 monthly interest-free payments. . number. If your order it less than $25, you can use the remaining balance on another order by choosing to Redeem CLUB Points during payment. They did start at 1 in some production runs but they may have done that in the middle of the year and not necessarily in sequential order. If
Hopefully this tool will be useful in sorting "how did they know that"? This bolt had the complete serial number stamped on the body I can't quite make out the refurb stamp on yours. This is a Finnish each other and the Remington bolt retains the matching cocking knob, but is not the same the center of the star), This example is a M91/30 made in 1937 and was made in the
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by qz2026 Sun Dec 29, 2013 11:55 am, Return to Collectible Mosin Nagant Forum, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. To confuse enemys that will try and determine production levels by observing serial numbers on captured rifles the Soviets swapped numbers around. 1940-1943 No Some were used to equip U.S. National Guard, SATC, and ROTC units. This is an M91/30 which was built by several Since then I have done extensive
When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. It is no secret that the vast majority of Mosin Nagant rifles are not worth more than the few of hundred dollars they tend to sell for at gun shows, gun shops, and pawnbrokers. It's M44 rifle with a barrel produced in 1944 at Izhevsk (if you pull the action out of the stock, you can check the underside of the receiver tang to see if it's arsenal/year stamped to give an idea if it's original to the barrel). . the collecting and preservation of the rifle Mosin and all other
The "r" after the date loosely means "year of god" and doesn't indicate refurb. As for specific serial numbers, the aresenals started each year at 1 and ended at however many they made that year. and new ones stamped beside them, often with only the last four digits. You can compare the A forum community dedicated to survivalists and enthusiasts. site, the persons that submitted them, or are in the public domain. The Civil Guard District number complete with the S prefix images to identify where the barrel of your rifle was made. In interviews Hyh gave before his death, he said that the scope and mount designed by the Soviets required the shooter to expose himself too much and raise his head too high, increasing the chances of being spotted by the enemy. NOTE: All single items are listed by their SERIAL NUMBER. There is no apparent evidence that another number was scrubbed or Description: Custom Built Mosin Nagant bolt action rifle 7.62x54 21" bbl. Rifles from this program are valuable collectibles. The inventors obliged by delivering their final designs. Mine does have matching serial numbers, but they were definitely not . number. SIG. Serial numbers and markings are explained on. Thank you. Click OK to extend your time for an additional 0 minutes. Significantly, the front sight of the M38 was positioned in such a way that the Model 91/30's cruciform bayonet could not be mounted to the muzzle even if a soldier obtained one. This M91 has the barrel serial number divided in two parts by It also has the "N" prefix which is not usually
stock may or may not have a cut out in it for a folded bayonet. Their use in Afghanistan continued on well into the 1990s and the early 21st century by Northern Alliance forces. Start over. These don't seem to match each other or the serial He probably got a fist full of ammo if he was lucky. Nagant's legal dispute. The gun store down the road from me has a '42 Izzy that would be a nice bookend to your Tula. Regardless of the conversion, a qualified gunsmith should examine the rifle before firing, and owners should use caution before firing commercial ammunition. This is a Finnish M24 or "Lotta" rifle. The rifle was used in the short civil war there and adopted as the service rifle of the new republic's army. After they started the prefixes I am betting you could have several with the same numbers but not the same prefixes. The Mosin Nagant M44 Carbine is a Russian/Soviet carbine-length, bolt action rifle in 7.62x54R. Known officially as the 3-line rifle M1891[citation needed] and informally in Russia and former Soviet Union as Mosin's rifle (Russian: , ISO 9: vintovka Mosina), it is primarily found chambered for its original 7.6254mmR cartridge. Yes An M24 with the serial number on the side of the barrel and a over. by Judi and her Mosins Sun Dec 29, 2013 4:48 am, Post The year is quite simply the year the rifle was manufactured. Unlike the Mauser, which uses a controlled feed bolt head in which the cartridge base snaps up under the fixed extractor as the cartridge is fed from the magazine, the Mosin has a push feed recessed bolt head in which the spring-loaded extractor snaps over the cartridge base as the bolt is finally closed similar to the Gewehr 1888 and M91 Carcano or modern sporting rifles like the Remington 700. Yeah please send me the store info so I can speak to them, have you bothered to look at its condition? result, they used these historic firearms for experiments in
- Free Online Library", "Current MosinNagant rifles being produced", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MosinNagant&oldid=1141806423, 500 metres (550yd), 800+ m (875+ yards) with optics, 5-round non-detachable magazine, loaded individually or with 5-round, Rear: ladder, graduated from 100 m to 2,000 m (M91/30) and from 100 m to 1,000 m (M38 and M44); Front: hooded fixed post (drift adjustable) PU 3.5 and PEM scope also mounted. It would be interesting to see if the prefixes were assigned to certain arsenal though. In spite of its age, it has been used in various conflicts around the world up to the present day. The only other number on the rifle is on the bolt body and The limited sight adjustment leaves some hunters with the desire to add a scope, leading two companies to make adjustable sights for the Russian version of this rifle, Mojo and Smith-Sights. scrubbed or overstamped. This bolt was scrubbed clean and the new number stamped on The Seller Description. 1891-1925 1926-1927 Year stamps are quite visible. The most important area for us right now is the
Check out with Sezzle and split your entire order into 4 interest-free payments over 6 weeks. There are six major variations. Deleted by Facebook because it's evil to even discuss collectible firearms on social media these days. See the. In this case only three digits are stamped on the knob rather Case sensitive with a minimum of 6 characters & one numeral. On Facebook? the site host or any site contributor shall not be held responsible for
You answered flat. the Cyrillic prefix scrubbed and a new 6 digit number without a prefix stamped in it's The author's Mosin-Nagant rifle was featured in the NRA's "American Rifleman" television show about the "Guns of 1914" that aired in 2014. [18] Spanish Civil War Mosins can be readily identified by the wire sling hangers inserted in the slots in the forearm and buttstock meant to take the Russian "dog collars" for Russian-style slings, so the rifles could accept Western Europeanstyle rifle slings. In the 20's the s/n's were put on perfectly centered so a five digit number was a no brainer. hundreds of variations and it is impossible to identify all the nuances with this guide. If you continue as guest, you will have to wait to receive your physical card in the mail to use your Instant Credit. sites forums. Finn matchedA Finnish built or marked rifle that They represent a block of 9,999 rifles and were apparently assigned at random. The first one's came from
I don't see the accuracy proof stamps the circle K and concentric O. Does your rifle have The notched rear tangent iron sight is adjustable for elevation, and is calibrated in hundreds of meters (arshins on earlier models). You answered curved. site, the persons that submitted them, or are in the public domain. These marks indicate the arsenal the weapon was produced in and have changed over the years. Finland was still producing the M39 MosinNagant in small numbers as late as 1973. A matching rifle could be all stamped matching or f orce matched. country other than Russia where the meaning of the "N" was not recognized. The rifle was widely used by all belligerents in the civil war. last 3 digits. - M . "ItemImage" : "https://assets.basspro.com/image/list/fn_select:jq:first(.%5B%5D%7Cselect(.public_id%20%7C%20endswith(%22main%22)))/3677812.json",
Send email to admins@russian-mosin-nagant-forum.com. What style is the rear sight leaf? It was a good design, much improved over the M91 it replaced. "The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants." [12] The new Mosin rifles would replace the Berdan rifles then in use by the Russian army. Various weapons were acquired and tested by GAU of the Ministry of Defense of Russian Empire, and in 1889 the Lebel M1886 was obtained through semi-official channels from France. [10], From a technical point of view the rifle that came to be called "MosinNagant" is the design proposed by Mosin as further amended by Mosin with some details borrowed from Nagant's design. research into the history of these rifles and have expanded the site
In 1889, three rifles were submitted for evaluation: Captain Sergei Ivanovich Mosin of the imperial army submitted his "3-line" caliber (.30 cal, 7.62 mm) rifle; Belgian designer Lon Nagant submitted a "3.5-line" (.35 caliber, 9mm) design; and a Captain Zinoviev submitted another "3-line" design (1 "line" = .mw-parser-output .frac{white-space:nowrap}.mw-parser-output .frac .num,.mw-parser-output .frac .den{font-size:80%;line-height:0;vertical-align:super}.mw-parser-output .frac .den{vertical-align:sub}.mw-parser-output .sr-only{border:0;clip:rect(0,0,0,0);height:1px;margin:-1px;overflow:hidden;padding:0;position:absolute;width:1px}110in or 2.54mm, thus 3 lines = 7.62mm). It is a cut down Russian M91 and there are three primary variations as seen The commission initially voted 14 to 10 to approve Mosin's rifle. grew out of a handful of photos several years ago that I posted to
This showed Russian commanders the need to modernize the general infantry weapon of the army. out these fascinating pieces of history. Hand. While exact logos vary through the years, you can compare the following images to identify a mis-matched number on the bolt body, but the last few digits of the barrel number on the Later Soviet production such as M38s, M44s, and M91/59s which Finland was a Grand Duchy in the Russian Empire until 1917, so Finns had long used the MosinNagant in service with the Tsarist military. Darryl Boyd 2011-2018. Three Russian arsenals were contracted for production at Tula from 1891 to 1926, Izhevsk from 1891 to 1926, and Sestroryetsk from 1892 to 1918. The trigger assembly is unique in the Romanian 91/30 and is adjustable. however the other parts are numbered. number and did not leave enough barrel shank to easily renumber it there. several old numbers are present. lined out and a new one added. This is a Finnish Start In 1955 the two character prefix was retained, but the Mannlicher Style Stock with Schnabel Forearm!! by racerguy00 Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:40 pm, Post The Mosin-Nagant Model 1891/30 was modified and adapted as a sniper rifle from 1932 onwards, first with mounts and scopes from Germany then with domestic designs (PE, PEM); from 1942 it was issued with 3.5-power PU fixed focus scopes. 1932 Tula M91/30, serial number 94015. An order for 500,000 rifles was placed with the French arms factory, Manufacture Nationale d'Armes de Chtellerault.[9]. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/tv77pkv7g4f58c2/AACnnNQbMdi9l1AyFcnbNCe4a?dl=0, Wilderness Survival, Hiking and Camping Forum. "displaySKUContextData" : "false",
Suggested site content and search history menu. But, most everyone else here has far more experience than me! the Izhevsk arsenal mark. from the Balkans (seldom matching). Can you get me a photo of it when you get a chance? Old number scrubbed and last four digits of the new number Below are examples of the barrel markings. Later Remington, and New England
With the start of World War I, production was restricted to the M1891 dragoon and infantry models for the sake of simplicity.
You answered "no date". But I have heard that this is not always the case. . 7.62X54MMR. 1430 of 25 November 2003. There were also minor modifications to the bolt, but not enough to prevent interchangeability with the earlier Model 1891 and the so-called "Cossack dragoon" rifles. There are Mosin Nagant Serial Numbers - 62x54r.net Electropenciled A method of etching parts with a serial number which was often used during refurbishment. Whether the Tula arsenal in Russia. It's so simple, even a cave man can do it. We use your Support ID to provide faster resolution to issues experienced while on our website. Aug 15, 2008. As for the dragoons I am not sure they didn't start at 1 and go up from there after a given number (or ungiven). This rifle has matching serial numbers on the receiver, bolt, butt-plate, magazine floor plate, and bayonet. on it. a previous number has been ground off, electropenciled numbers, or numbers It was made at two arsenals. [22], In the years after World War II, the Soviet Union ceased production of all MosinNagants and withdrew them from service in favor of the SKS series carbines and eventually the AK series rifles. By the time the war broke out in 1904, approximately 3.8 million had been built,[14] with over 1.5 million in the hands of the Russian cavalry and all of its reserves when hostilities commenced.[12][15]. In 1952 two characters were used for the prefix and the five [47], As of 2023[update], bolt on mounts make it possible to fit a modern proprietary[48] or Picatinny/Weaver rail compatible scope to the rifle without the need to drill or tap the weapon. What style is the nose cap? It could easily also be a M38 or M44 carbine, as
were probably numbered during refurbishment, Soviet replacement stocks in pencil in the barrel channel, Soviet postwar M44 stocks stamped under the buttplate, Late Chinese T53s instead of the buttplate. has had the bolt renumbered to match the barrel. where the serial number is placed on the receiver rather than the barrel. for the use or application of material found on this site. Many of these American-made MosinNagants were rechambered by wholesalers to the ubiquitous American .30-06 Springfield cartridge; some were done crudely, and others were professionally converted. discover how interesting and affordable these rifles are to collect. We have been entrusted with these historic treasures so we have a
In 1889 Tsar Alexander III ordered the Russian army to meet or exceed European standards in rifle developments with "rifles of reduced caliber and cartridges with smokeless powder. The new service rifle m/39 was designed from the start around the D-166 thus it had nominal barrel diameter of .310. It was manufactured by three Russian and three "foreign" arsenals. photos below will be a match to most of the "refurbished" Mosin Nagant
In the comments I will post a picture of the serial number and markings. You answered long. Darkly blued steel and high quality machining. If
stamped on the bolt body. How far is the front sight from the muzzle? It is You will also note that there are articles
Izhevsk "bow and arrow" arsenal mark. receiver. NEW didn't do that. Some details were borrowed from Nagant's design. Feb 08, 2008 #3 All the numbers match. Checkout with your new Bass Pro Shops CLUB Card and earn points on your order. So, for example, could you have a 1942 Mosin Nagant 91/30 with a serial number of 1234 and a 1944 Mosin Nagant 91/30 with a serial number of 1234. for the use or application of material found on this site. *In very good to excellent condition, very clean, no rust or pitting, no crack, solid and pretty stock. production and are not serial numbers. This 1891 Mosin Nagant was manufactured in the United States by New England Westinghouse. bolt knob would still be considered Finn matched. Because the serial numbers match, the bayonet does not need fitting, as it attaches nicely to the rifle this is not always the case with rifles such as these. William Shakespeare But that puts them at 999,999 possible combinations. It could easily be a M38 or M44 carbine, as the
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