It seemed to be just the right combination of price, accuracy and power for my needs; mostly target shooting for fun, not competition, but weve got a pretty pesky raccoon problem here, and it sounds like the 392 will do the trick when needed. Reviewed in the United States on June 1, 2022. thanks for the help bb, i really apreciate your knowledge and understanding. Like I sayed before, since I only shoot small game and Natural Lites, I feel the scopes I use are adequite for my needs. I know this is a lot of questions but I am a complete novice when it comes to air guns. Contact him at airgunshop@aol.com or call 717-382-1481. Very very accurate with open sights. You need to shim the front of the sight to bring it up. So much trial and error!!! Yesturday, I sighted in (at 20 yards) using the basic crosman field pointed pellets from walmart, and the crosman destroyers. I have shot several halfr-inch groups, but they are always special. Be careful as they are springy and hold tight an the barrel solder line can crack under too much strain. I will experiment with any you suggest. I understand why you state that your opposition to mounting these rifles because of the pumping issue, but Ive come up with a suggestion that my help others out. It was a mess, the nose of the bolt was bent at a 45 degree angle, the paint overspray was thick. Gave it away to a friend who has it to this day. Thanks. It went on very easily and gives an outstanding sight picture! Sometimes the bolts are so stiff that they dont move as readily. Thanks Ill try your advice. Air gun 101: What is a PCP air rifle? Shoot the rifle at a target about 20 yards away. its also a no go in the classifieds. Example: It was shooting a few clicks to the right and several clicks to low. I was hoping for more from these pellets, but my hopes were scattered almost as badly as the pellet groups . The stock of Benjamin 392 is made of American hardwood so it can withstand stresses, shocks, loads, impacts, and abrasion in daily life. For example the Gamo 890S, Beeman SS1000/GH950-GS1000. (Im thinking maybe the 397 due to smaller pellet). Can you check your word verification archives? Reviewed in the United States on February 25, 2023. I think that I might have to remove the rear sight in order to get a clear peep hole, but then again maybe not. I also like the Gamo Shadow 1000, but be prepared to break it in. Now Im using a Remington airmaster 77 with a Bushnell 6-1850 scope. refills are about 20 cents an ounce so it wouldnt be too big of a deal, especially if i buy a few tanks to keep filled if i run out. The barrel is rifled. Pyramids manual on the 392, which you directed me to, apparently added that info to the online manual and it wasnt well proof read because here is how the last sentence of the lateral directions reads: To make the pellet hit further right on the target, loosen the windage screw on the left side of the sight and tighten the windage screw on the left side of the sight and tighten the windage screw on the right side of the sight (Fig. Repeat this for the front clip on the other side of the aigun, and alternate sides about ever 5 taps until the rear sight slides forward and the two front sight clips are no longer in the grooves. Up to five pumps will be easy. Your rifle should never be pumped more than 10 strokes. Welcome to the blog. Keep the rifle pointed in a safe direction all the time you do this. Where can I buy a Benjamin 397 or 392 (wood pump action)? i cant even shoot this well with my .22 firearm!!! ), if any. Help! Everything worked just fine until I hide it (from the kids) in the garage compartment last summer. Well, now you are using good pellets. They dont seem to be made for that, do they? There are no scope mounts that wrap about the entire pump tube. Thomas. Thank you for all of the great info contained in this Blog. Let us know how you're doing thanks. craigslist.com has no towns in the area that my parents will drive to, and garage sales are also bereft of bb guns of any kind. You wont live long enough to wear out the barrel of a Sheridan. In order to load the pellet, first, you put the gun on the safe, push the bolt handle up and pull it back to open the bolt. Thanks for your help. Just a hint for those that use this sight in low light, unscrewing the aperture to remove it will turn this sight into a ghost-ring! I have number 142 of the 500 that are going to be made. I was pretty excited to try out a more expensive pellet gun than I had ever owned, but this one is disappointing. Crosman bought both companies years ago and the two rifles have slowly morphed together into essentially the same gun. Pellgunoil isnt a good lubricant. And, yes, you CAN see the dot move. For metal-to-metal contact, regular lubricating oil is best. thanks for any help you can provide, and sorry about being long winded! If the Talon is accurate and I could buy a small air compresor or something like that It sounds like the one I need. There are no videos on how to do this, as it has only been done a few times. For questions,contact the Publisher, Stephen Archer. While observing the breech, I did notice that the rubber sealing ring was uneven in its seat,.nothing drastic, but am I safe to assume this is because of the breaking action and closing like a hinge (hittin one side before the other?) In fact, that is the LEADING contributor to scope shift!. Ive also pinched my hand several times just closing the forearm. R.R. I just bought and received a Benjamin 392 after reading this blog. So .22 pellet is the favorite choice for pest eliminators and small game hunters. Pumps six through eight will be harder, but you dont always need them. It says in the owners manuel that you should use crosman Pellgunoil. i pumped it too much before (i know its bad). But at 650 f.p.s., it will do fine. Thank you very much BB, youre the main reason I always get my stuff from pyramidair. This gun has a lot of potential to become your favorite gun for hours of fun with target shooting. The 392 looks like it might be my next rifle for pest removal. At the risk of having this thread moved to the airgun mods gate , the valve work entails taking the valve apart, shortening the check valve about 1/8" and putting it back in the front of the valve, dropping a light spring of appropriate diameter and length in on top of the check and then dropping a small washer into the valve.The washer must be small enough to fit in the valve, but large . Whats your take on these Germans? It doesnt rust when exposed to the condensation from every shot, and it can be made smoother than a steel barrel. I looked up the Talon SS on the Pyramyd Ait site. Depending on your answer I will decide to buy the Talon SS or go back to a CO2 model. A steroid 392 should extend your chuck range to 35-40 yards. For instance, how about the Benjamin 342? The Benjamin 392 Bolt Action Air Rifle hits the target very hard. Its probably held up better over the years than I have.Thanx any response would be great Rowdy. George Pena at heligun1@msn.com or 512-863-2951. He handed me one of his 20 gr Eun Jin pelles he uses on his Sumatra and I still nailed the spoon at 20 yrds with out needing to adjust for elevation. Jay,Since I posted, I have figured out how the rear sights attached, removed them, and got the peep sight working perfectly! The best pellet for your gun is the JSB Exact domed pellet. Thanks a lot.-Rob. Reply #2 on: November 06, 2009, 12:54:19 AM . The model I'm testing for you today is the first variation. They look really good on the Talon with a big scope. I shot about 100 premiers and 100 benjamin pellets through the 392. and i figured out that the pshh noise is coming from this little hole it says air hole do not oil. If it doesnt, you got away with it. Only in a gun store that carries a wide line of airguns. But as I said earlier, you can get a scope/peep sight with a special inter-mount to use on this one. I used to do this with my pumpmaster 760 when i was young and nothing happened to it that i know of. One has a strange rear site which are two half circles. I love the fact that some 12 odd years after Toms post that the 392 and 397 are still around. 888-262-4867. Hard Air Magazine Online Privacy Statement, Making The Guinness World Record Longest Air Rifle Shot. can i just use it out the box? So for all the joints, Id suggest a common household oil. No, I havent heard of that, but there are a lot of people interested in the gun so it doesnt surprise me. A .22 scope will work on your airgun, but .22 scopes are notoriously cheap. Ive a 392 and with the stock sights have been able to easily eradicate a bottle-cap infestation in my back yard(25 yard shot). Am I doing something wrong? Always being safety concience, I ALWAYS keep the safety ON!!! The stock has aswelling part in the foregrip to make pumping easier for shooters. Is it really critical? As for silicone chamber oil, why not order it here? My C9 was the rifle I cut my teeth on before shooting with a team and earning my expert rating with cartridge riflesthats right, I started with a Sheridan .20 caliber pellet gun and jumped straight into competitive shooting. It'll probably be sometime next week when I get it - will post some pictures, targets, etc when I can. Monte Carlo stock has lots of advantages including: The Benjamin 392 uses a .22 pellet as its only ammo. -Price. Were they discontinued in wood stock form? Then Benjamin bought Sheridan, and still later Corsman bought Benjamin. Very nice! They are made to fit an 11mm rail, which is larger than 3/8. I cant wait to get the premiers to see if they do better than the daisys (what do u think of the daisys?). Thats it. It is also good for not startling your animal target when you are in the field. I wrote a more detailed description, but its a pain retyping it for the third time. Thats like buying a new car but not wanting to pay for gas because the price is so high. They are the same as Crosman Premiers and will work well in your gun. There was an error retrieving your Wish Lists. At eight pumps they go straight through with the same size hole coming out as went in. Hey B.B. Well, the Silver Streak would have brighter sights. With these pellets and the peep sight, I can consistently get a half inch group at 35 feet. Thomas. If you have explored other pellets, I will bet you will get groups that average ij the 3/4-inch range. Thwap! For any spare parts not listed please feel free to contact us. BB-Two more questions: I was under the impression that the 392 and the .20 cal bluestreak are essentially the same rifle in different calibers, however they are both listed at 685 fps on your site. He has moved up to bigger and better air rifles now and he recently gavee the Benjamin back to me. .22 pellet is heavier and has alarger diameter than the .177 pellet. In .20, thats in the 11-grain range. Instead, why not enjoy the best? If there is a felt wiper behind the head (like the one I pictured in the Benjamin HB22 post) oil there, and for the same reason as for the HB 22. Yesterday I disassembled the whole scope/mount and started over. Also, the fit of the receiver to the stock is a little loose; tightening of the screw did nothing to fix this. did awhile back(youll need to copy and paste): /blog/2007/8/benjamin-392397-thats-easy-to-pump/. Its more of a sealant. George is at heligun1@msn.com or 512-863-2951. The 6.4-liter 392 HEMI SRT V8 or "Apache" will continue for another couple of models years in the Charger and Challenger lineups. Its freezing here in minnesota today and its snowing, theres barely any snow on the ground for this time of year so theres not many winter activities available, and im miles away from my friends and any recreational areas. Reviewed in the United States on May 25, 2020. But then again, I am most certain that I am not the best of shot, and many of the groupings could have been better with a different shooter! Yes, you can pump the Benjamin. problem solved!! They are more trouble to install, but they do lock up tight. Testing the effects of my valve mods.Here's where you can get one, plus ammo and accessories: http://amzn.to/1Olyf16 It is single-shot action so you can shoot only 1 shot at a time. Also, try five pumps or six instead of the maximum. Anyways, I stick to the 6 pump method with everything but the heavier pellets like the silver arrows, crow-mags, and my personnal favorite the predators. I have takenabout 4 squirrels no problem all with good shot placement of course, but overall do you feel the 397 has good power for small game hunting? I went ahead and ordered that Williams Peep Sight yesterday so that should help as well. Removed some of that black paint in the end of the barrel and adjusted the elevation on rear sight. Crosman has a Williams Peep sight made expressly to mount on the 392/397. Just got it (fast, great service) and took it out tonight very happy! I owned a Crosman 76 (?) Once again there is no Benjamin Franklin airgun. Rick WillneckerRick is in Pennsylvania, where he repairs vintage and modern Crosman, Benjamin and Sheridan guns. As I recall, you have to lever it out of the solder joint, and it may be hard to put back. The heavy pellets like the Kodiak and Logun wont be as accurate at low power, and the JSB is the all-around champion in these rifles. All these questions!!! It is almost twice as powerful as the stock gun, but the later pumps(it will accept up to 14 pumps) take a great deal more effort. Your eye automatically centers itself because of the amount of light coming through the hole. If you have done that, the valve has too much pressure or the hammer to open it. 1. I took 4 shots ater each adjustment. Some pneumatics require cocking before pumping. But the Spanish and Chinese guns are too iffy to say without testing and I havent tested the SS 1000. Ive seen one persons new 392LE destroyed by what Crosman deems Scope too heavy. The scope was mounted on the factory cut dovetail, and after a couple weeks, the whole barrel and breech broke off at the solder joint. How does the Gamo Shadow 1000 compare to the 392 in accuracy with open sights(if u discount the fact that i dont know the correct way to hold and shoot springers)? This is an awesome gun B.B. I have recently purchased a Benjamin Sheridan 392 and like Chris above am doing most of my shooting in the 15 to 20 yard range. . Crosmans hangup is that the triggers are lighter than todays guns, there are no safeties and they are concerned about liability, since they own the company. The Benjamin has laid to rest many pests and even taken game as large as racoons. Its not my place to say whether you can shoot in the house or not. i have some background in airguns but just had a few questions. is the screw supposed to be connected at the bottom of the sight. Reviewed in the United States on December 22, 2022, I love this gun. With the Benjamin, I can regulate the velocity of the gun for pest control and just plinking around when I need a break in the afternoon from staring at a computer monitor. First, it's very hard-hitting, especially for a multi-pump rifle. Yes thats normal. If thats not for you, I recommend a spring gun. I am assuming that you have run the rear sight down as low as it will go and the rifle is still shooting too high. I dont know anything about air rifles but have a need for one to shoot crows, foxes, raccoons as mentioned before. are great pellets that sometimes surprise everyone. Longer shots will hit lower. Is PCP gun the best How to choose the right Air Gun Caliber for your game? A new blog is posted Monday through Friday at. If you have to buy your own tank, what do they cost and where do you go to buy one? Airgunmaniac Official Phone: (830) 542-6074-1475 Address: 1412 South Veterans Boulevard, Eagle Pass, TX 78852 USA Email: improve accuracy (because the shooters eyes are lined up more naturally with the sight). So the crosman isnt even a candidate? The rep. or at least try. Secondly, the pumping action is really hard and is not suitable for a person with weak arms. I must have bought these back in 1959 or so serials H75236 and H314989. Any information would be great. looks like im heading to sports authority. Sometimes I give them away to people I want to bug. no one else well be down there and i have safety glasses. Either caliber will work for you and there wont be enough difference to see. An email from Pyramydair for 10% off the price clinched my decision. Messaged the seller and got no response. Your recently viewed items and featured recommendations. In the air gun market today, there are many air rifles made with nitro piston technology I got the vertical sighting on target but having a problem adjusting the lateral screws; Im having trouble centering aim from the left to center. Thank you for that report. Are these any good, or should I order something different. Here are my last questions. Ive been out shooting the Benjamin for the past two hours and my arms are getting sore! Benjamin - Welcome to the #1 Top-Rated Air Gun Superstore in the USA! Wondered if any lower priced alternatives are worth considering? The index is on Sep 30. He rights a daily blog at https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/ every Mon-Fri where alot of good people answer questions, share information, etc. Figure them to be equal in power. Stop pumping it. Also Ive heard good things about the new predator polymer tipped hollow points. See you there. I have achieved very good results with the Benjamin 14.3gr domed pellets. my gun is 2 days old. It seems to me that the peep sight hole would just be bigger and blurrier. Sorry about the typo. I do want to try out some of the round balls, but Beeman doesnt make them in 22 caliber. It can take down a larger prey easily. Tell me how far out both the windage and elevation knobs are turned. I would look for a good inexpensive airgun scope rather than use a .22 scope. The Bug Buster looks like it would fit the dove tailed receiver, perfectly. Maybe, I can repair these too have tried 3 in 1 oil on them but not the pelligunoil. 4.4 average based on 9 product ratings. I just received this gun, and when I fire (dry fire), I hear a wimpy little sputter versus a pop. Owners manul says nothing about cleaning the bore. so i was wondering is this site a good place to order it from. Penetrating a notoriously thick chuck skull is no mean feat. You will need to raise the rear of the scope with an adjustable scope mount. I did find my scope a tad loose the other day, so I yurned back the off-set mount a bit, and that solved the issue. I bought a C9A .20 when I knew there were being discontinued. Thank you very much for your time.-Robert. The 392 is the .22 caliber version of the gun, while the 397 is the .177. I am going to keep the 397 but if there is a reasonable $200 price range single cock with scope or fiber optic sight that would get the job done I would appreciate the advice?RR. Ill keep an eye out for the Blue Book of Airguns 5th Edition. This is why i prepare for the worst. The sights are set at about 20 yards right now, so the peep hole should line up with the rear and front sights in order to be accurate at 20 yards!! Household oils as in 3-in-1. Classic pistols that have been discontinued. I was shooting my 392 a couple days back, and i decided to try holding the gun different ways to see how it affected accuracy. The AirForce guns have more 11mm rails than any airgun made! 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