Are they good enough to be tier VII guns? Landing citadel hits against enemy battleships tends to fall off at ranges over 14km or so, but you should still be able to land penetrating hits through most belts you'll encounter. The most pressing thing to worry about when playing Florida is her citadel. Unlike the other "sniper" battleships like Slava and Champagne, the "softness" of Florida's hull is barely a concern. The 25mm extremities which damn her higher tiered cousins do not apparently have a lower-tier equivalency. I was expecting Florida to appear with 19mm of extremity armour but she instead clones the higher tiered ship weakness with 25mm instead. Given that all of the other tier VI and VII battleships are rocking 26mm worth of extremity plate, the loss of a single millimeter is not that much of a drawback. At most, this makes Florida slightly more vulnerable to HE shells from small and medium caliber guns -- specifically 152mm HE shells from tiers VII and below do not need to reach for Inertial Fuse for HE Shells in order to stack direct damage against Florida as they would against her tier-mates. Similarly, Florida is vulnerable to 120mm HE shells with Inertial Fuse for HE Shells. That's really the extent this soft skin provides in terms of vulnerability. Otherwise her superstructure, upper hull and amidships deck all conform to normal parameters for a tier VII battleship. The 0.1 sigma difference is imperceptible in game play -- you couldn't tell the difference if you tried. Same old, same old. The reload time is my biggest issue.. She just isn't a must-have in my fleet, which for me makes her a don't-buy. LittleWhiteMouse, October 12, 2020 in General Game Discussion. If I were to purchase one, Florida would get my money for sure., Whilst I appreciate the very solid review you have provided for yet another ship, I am far more appreciative of your last few paragraphs on @Critter8and the rest of you folks. TV: ESPN ( Watch and stream the game live on ESPN+) RADIO: Tar Heel Sports Network. This might have meant something back before the CV rework, but it's a joke currently. Below, we analyze Tipico Sportsbooks lines around the North Carolina vs. Florida State odds, and make our expert college basketball picks, predictions and bets.. North In order to land citadel hits, shells must contend with her 35mm anti-torpedo bulge then her 343mm belt and finally her 44mm citadel wall. This is in contrast to Arizona which has like no practical AA to speak of. She's boasting not only tier VIII AA firepower at tier VII but good tier VIII firepower at tier VII. The moneyline odds say Florida has a 62.3% chance of winning this game. I HATE when people hinge whether they are going to buy a ship or not based on her reivew. Well, this accidentally turned into a much longer review than I had intended. I was originally just going to line up Florida alongside California, compare the two and then pull a surprise-reveal that they both suck equally. Instead, I learned last week that Ship Comrade, the site run by @Critter8 that has hosted my reviews since the first quarter of 2016 was going to close down. Instead of working on how to cleverly cast shade on anyone that enjoyed either one of these tier VII American premium battleships, I spent the better part of two days going through years worth of archived jpegs and text, reflecting on the years I've spent writing for World of Warships and all of the help, support and encouragement Critter8 provided me. Based on this contests moneyline, Southern has an implied win probability of 76.2%. Florida's citadel layout tells you all you really need to know about this ship's durability. The TL:DR is that her citadel abuts against the exterior of her hull and it sits above the waterline. With only 285mm worth of belt protection, this exposed "T-section" of her citadel is stupid-easy to bullseye for waterline-aimed shots from enemy battleships. For 380mm+ AP shells aimed at her bows, her transverse bulkhead is almost as vulnerable. If you're struggling to see a difference in as clinical and sterile a trial as this, you have no hope of feeling the difference through normal game play. Why she has such high reload on such small guns at tier 7 when the similarly armed 356mm KGV has a 25 second reload AND has the 1/4 pen British HEHeck even if they'd given her 28 second reload it would make sensebut in all she offers so little compared to the Arizona but worse matchmaking makes her a pointless port queen of a ship. Softer-skinned than contemporary battleships with 25mm extremities. Rather than look for something new or novel, Wargaming played it safe. Once you start shooting atbroadside targets? She has excellent AA firepower. Sadly, Florida's HE are lacking. Their modest damage per-shell and slow reload might not be such a bad handicap if their fire chance was better, but her fire chance per shell is horrible. The 22% value she's shackled with is downright painful for such a slow rate of fire. Getting one permanent fire to burn is a feat, never mind doubling up. Her HE performance is so bad that I would happily recommend sticking with AP spam if it weren't for the aforementioned issue with angled and higher-tiered targets. It's stupid-important to be patient with your shots. Look for opportune targets where you can maximize her AP efficiency. You don't want to have to start spamming HE. Similarly, you don't want to force encounters where this is your sole option. Florida doesn't have the armour or hit points to facilitate trades against same-tier (or even tier VI) opponents. Blapping a full broadside of HE into an enterprising lolibote is hilarious, don't get me wrong -- her improved accuracy means that she easily can land four to six shells (or more!) These reviews have significant amounts of data and stats, plenty to draw your own conclusions. For randoms it looks like she is a really tough ship to play, but what about Operations like Narai?, I give this rating 5 out of 10. Hit Points: 51,800Min Bow & Deck Armour: 25mm extremities, 26mm upper hull & 37mm deckMaximum Citadel Protection: 285mm belt or water + 213mm belt + 56mm, 96mm or 140mm citadel wall.Torpedo Damage Reduction: 26%. California's increased rate of fire, higher shell damage and sigma are all nice but the difference is so minor as to be largely unnoticeable. If Florida was a battleship from any other nation, there would be very little worth noting here. You have to be dynamic with shell choice. Queens are 3-2 in their last 5 games against the spread. The only thing to watch out for is if one your DD/CL uses smoke and hide all other ships, MO will target you and you don't want that with Florida's armor. Florida basketball got back on the winning track on Tuesday night with a 77-67 win over the Georgia Bulldogs on the road in the penultimate regular-season game for the Gators. Here's what the numbers tell us. For me, Lyon is the best BB for Narai, Ashitaka being the second, due to their speed and DPM. +4% increased dispersion of enemy shells. THIS should be your mission statement. Thank you for the preemptive warning, I mean review on this one. This picture is the best thing I could think of to illustrate CA's introduction to California is a longer ranged Arizona with slightly improved damage output between better AP shells and a faster reload. Florida Scoring. As a Californian and a player whose been as eager to sink my teeth into some California play as I would be a good fish taco, this review of what the ship is about is akin to finding a brown layer of over ripened avocado in that taco and being fearful it might actually be a cream of cow pie spread. Shells which fuse inside this bulge but outside of the hull spaces underneath result in zero damage penetrations. The historical design was called for a ship with nine 250 mm guns in three triple turrets with two superfiring at the front and one at the rear. Thank you for the preemptive warning, I meanreview on this one. Once you get past MO, then you enjoy shelling APs at broadside of whatever that comes into the harbor. You are usually not shot at by much due to how target selection of bots works, so Florida's armor won't be a big issue even with the short combat range in OPs. That just makes her easy meat for enterprising lolibotes. This means the moment you touch their rudder, they dump their speed faster than a tweaked-out college student having their dorm inspected. The Tigers got monster performances from a pair of standouts in Angel Reese and Jasmine Carson, who each scored 25 points in a win that saw them walk away holding Now that said, with this high-profile release covered and my feels (hopefully) clearly broadcast, I'm taking some much needed time off. And I'm a Native CAn. Some places in Florida have been ranked 8% The average cost of living in Florida is about Look at all of this negative space! This is what happens when I scale the HE values to the same scale as the AP values. The order of ships shuffles a bit with German HE shells being terrible and British and Japanese HE shells doing more damage than you might otherwise expect for their calibre. Florida's HE performance remains unfortunate. However, given the troubles with her AP shells, you'll still be reaching for them often. Time to re-use a graphic because battleship skill optimization has stagnated! By However you're paying for the improvements with very crappy gun fire angles. Top Speed: 27 knotsTurning Radius: 760mRudder Shift Time: 15.4 seconds4/4 Engine Speed Rate of Turn: 4.1/s. North Florida are 4-1 in their last 5 games against the spread; North Florida are 5-12 in their road games against the spread; The totals have gone OVER in 3 of North Florida' last 5 games; The totals have gone OVER in 5 of North Florida' 11 last games at home The totals have gone OVER in 7 of Queens' 11 last games at home. Florida wins this battle hands down. He approached me about my frustrations with Club Wargaming and he took an active leadership role among the various content creators to approach Wargaming about our complaints. It was by his initiative that the WGNA CC-program took shape under NikoPower (of CorgiFleet fame). From those conversations, @iChase, @NoZoupForYou, @Notser, @TitiuBlack, Critter8 and I became the first NA-CCs in early January of 2016. While I could gush endlessly about everything NikoPower did for us, it was Critter8 who stands out as the leader we needed. He brought the six of us would-be professionals (with integrity) together. Please be aware that her performance may change in the future. This is a top-down view of California with her 343mm belt highlighted in red. But her bow? They provide the same bonuses and are merely a cosmetic swap. +1 upboat for the review. I was looking forward to this review because I was unsure about if I was going to spend some dosh on Florida as a USN fan i feel like its an insult to the playerbase that WG expects people to actually spend about 50 bucks on this garbage, truly a waste of devs time and money but isnt that par for the course with WG nowadays? However, the larger map sizes makes this a lot more problematic. With Arizona existing, Wargaming should have either retired the Pearl Harbor monument or dredged up something from their box o' gimmicks for California to compensate. Most, if not all,also need their alpha nerfed slightly so they aren't deleting cruisers quite the same way they are now (enough that basically instead of say 2 citadels and 4 overpens to destroy a cruiser you'd need 2-3 of those overpens to be solid hits). A slow American standard-type battleship with horrible gun firing arcs but improved long-range gunnery with her twelve 356mm guns. Build for fire-resistance first, then double back for your other skills. Horrible gun handling and appalling gun firing angles. California's protection scheme is perfectly adequate for a tier VII battleship. The Gators average only 0.2 more points than the Wildcats allow (69.3). Enjoy your break, you earn it every time you do one of these. However this gap isn't quite as pronounced as the difference in speed would suggest as Arizona has higher Krupp, a coefficient WG uses to directly modify penetration values. Live stream California vs. Florida State on fuboTV: Start with a 7-day free trial! In particular, the Florida Keys is an excellent place to snorkel. When it comes to Florida vs California to live, Florida is significantly more affordable than most parts of California. Heres how you can watch Mondays game: UNC-FLORIDA STATE TV, RADIO, AND STREAMING INFORMATION. You can largely forget applying those brawling skills or getting to cap or even angling to mitigate damage -- it's just not applicable. You probably want Expert Marksman over Adrenaline Rush on your first pass. WebFlorida and California are remarkably similar for their warm climates, beaches, tourist destinations, immigrant populations, and more, but both states could not be more USS California's inclusion in World of Warships bothers me on so many levels. WG executive 1: "Hmm, not enough suckers are buying this new ship. VERDICT: Pretty darned good for raw concealment values, though she struggles to spot stuff on her own. It's too bad she doesn't have the agility to make better use of this trait. Historical Ship and 2. Take this review lightly. I think the best thing to examine is how worth it is the ship in not just randoms and ranked, but coop and ops. If she was still a tier 6 price I'd still take a bite without hesitation but this is just darn disappointing. I'd actually rather get California, because she's an extension of a ship type (US Standards) thatI have played a lot and really enjoy. I was going to take a break after Siegfried and Agir's review was published. Her improved dispersion via sigma will only be apparent over the course of multiple games rather than individual matches. I'm not going to waste too much time on this review (she says, and then spends four whole days on it). Tier VII battleship. UNC heads to Tallahassee to face Florida State (9-20, 7-11) on Monday (7 p.m., ESPN) in the final road game of the regular season. Ron DeSantis exacts punishment, takes over Disney district on eve of book launch. LOCATION: Donald L. Tucker Center in Tallahassee, Florida. Florida is the state that more or less stayed open during the pandemic and thrived in its defiance. Hell, if you're a fan of PVE you get an even better deal with most scenarios now being limited to tier VI these days. While California does have some minor improvements over Arizona, they are (in my opinion) inconsequential. Alright, that's enough fussing over what is little more than a curiosity. Let's get onto the meat of the matter. Deposit $200, Get $250. With that in mind, this review is going to myopically focus on the differences between Arizona and California and why one ship is worth the money and the other is a slap in the face. Florida's great range (especially when upgraded and modified with her Spotter Aircraft consumable) can work against her here, especially with those enterprising shots in the early stages of a match as everyone's deploying. While it can be super-tempting to try your luck against targets spotted early by your own lolibotes or Just Dodge simulators, you can all but guarantee you'll be spotted in return when you pull the trigger. With nothing else to shoot at, you can bet that every battleship on the enemy team that can draw bead on you will take a shot and given Florida's super-squish citadel, bad things will happen if they've got the range. Keep in mind that Florida's rudder is terrible so it's not like she dodges well. This is definitely a risk-reward element at play here, so be careful. DD's need their stealth back, or they need survivability. You probably want, Arizona & California's Main Battery Differences. Same with cruisers - they didn't have to cower behind islands like now, they could fire and fade away. Instead, it's so much thinned out swill with a rancid aftertaste, leaving you to wonder what could have been. Despite their outdated designs, they went on to not only find a role in the fast-modernizing US Navy but they went on to engage triumphantly in one of the final battleship surface actions in history. They could have made California powerful. I HATE when people hinge whether they are going to buy a ship or not based on her reivew. Would you prefer if they decided based on other CCs instead? Florida uses an American battleship version of her, Finally in the last slot, you have your choice between a, Finally, in slot four, fire damage mitigation is still your best option so. Florida Scoring. The moneyline odds say Florida has a 62.3% chance of winning this game. The bot was without camouflage. 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