I don't think there would ever be multiple logos for Great British Railways as you've alluded to - it would make it complicated for the end passenger. It highlighted different ways in which Westminster could invest in Britain's strategic transport network to better-integrate the nation. It really does look dire. You are using an out of date browser. The iconic London and North Eastern Railway brand - better known as LNER - looks set to be withdrawn again. Not everyone has a smartphone and when the PIS is not working, I find it good to know where we've stopped. Great British Railways: Livery, branding and appearance? Japan had JNR (Japan National Railways) and now, post nationalisation, it has JR (Japan Railways). Great British Railways marks a new era in the history of our railways. Bare minimum. A throwback to the 70s and 80s can sometimes work, but not often, but I think. Its rolling stock initially carried the standard Rail Blue (or blue and grey) livery but in 1992, it introduced a new livery of red and grey, with pale blue and grey flashes. But thats the insidious appeal of nationalism: it willalwaysbe easier, in the short term, to spurn complicating national attachments in favour of tacking to local winds and making off with as much cash as you can lay your hands on. I'm inclined to disagree. Well Id have thought it might be GBR Northern or GBR Southern. Regional divisions will manage concession contracts, stations, infrastructure, and local and regional budgets, integrate track and train, and integrate rail with local transport services. | Page 23 | RailUK Forums We're pleased to announce the launch of our new booking engine at tickets.railforums.co.uk, which helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchased. particularly associated with the depots at Old Oak Common and Compared to the superb branding packages of TfW and ScotRail, it does not say "come use the railway . It may not display this or other websites correctly. [4] Normal passenger service franchise mechanisms were amended, transferring almost all revenue and cost risk to the government, effectively 'renationalising' those services temporarily. The red stripe does work, very similar to what the Welsh are doing. The Tories, particulary this present mob of throwbacks, have long since co-opted the "great" in "Great Britain" to mean "very good"and its xenophobic, imperialist undertones make me want to vomit. the handling/liability of pensions etc. Great Central Railway {} Sample: 002366: Great Eastern Railway {} Sample: 00a550: Great Northern Railway (Great Britain) {{GNGE colour}} Sample: 00645b: Great Northern and Great Eastern Joint Railway {{GWGC colour}} Sample: 47640f: Great Western and Great Central Joint Railway {} Sample: 964b00: Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway Because it was a nationalised industry run by the British Government. Class 52 No.D1015 restored to 1960's Western Region Maroon livery. The coaches for the XP64 train were painted in a slightly lighter version of what would eventually become Rail Blue, with a 44-inch-wide (1,100mm) Pale Ivory stripe centred on the passenger windows, and brown underframe. There was a return of some regional schemes: the Western Region turned out some Mk1 sets for named expresses in chocolate/cream, similar to that used by the GWR before nationalisation. | Page 27 | RailUK Forums We're pleased to announce the launch of our new booking engine at tickets.railforums.co.uk, which helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchased. I just see the thing as extremely surface level. I'm unsure about the livery as such, but if Great British Railways is taken forward, I'd expect 'GBR' to feature. Historic fact is that Roman Britain was England & Wales and the name Great Britain was adopted once Scotland joined, even though today we may refer of GB as just Britain. Scottish rolling stock not covered by the ScotRail livery (generally those on secondary services) received the Regional Railways livery, but with "ScotRail" branding. On the face of it, this is primarily a reorganisation of the franchise system in England control over passenger franchises in Scotland and Wales is, alas, devolved. We badly need that on the visual mess that is the railway. It might have the operator identified in a small way too. GW 1 1 Great British Railways Great British Railways ( GBR) is a planned state-owned public body that will oversee rail transport in Great Britain, [1] with the exception of Transport for London and Merseytravel services, and light rail and trams elsewhere in England. Great British Railways: Livery, branding and appearance? For example, GWRs London to Bristol, Penzance, Cardiff, Oxford etc might be wrapped up with a GBR Express or GBR Intercity, but the GWR commuter/regional services under a different brand name. The Great British Railways Transition Team (GBRTT) seeks to deliver the most ambitious changes to our railways in a generation, working with the government and across the rail sector. Antrim Princess Sealink ferry underway in Larne with Sealink letters. Which does what it says on the tin. Bare minimum, low effort. More middle days; they were improving quite a bit in the 1990s. Read about the differences between Britain, the. Recognising this, the Plan for Rail recommended the development of a 30-year strategy to determine how best the railways can support Britain in the future. I agree I think the NR logo in the circle looks better, but GBR is such a mouthful - its just latent fear of the British Rail brand. For example, the Midland Railway abolished Second-class on 1 st . What is of 2020s Britain then? And if Northern are still running trains to Glasgow, a new paint job would be a great moment for the Government to stump up for good rolling stock. I quite like that version; I think I might like it even more if the black and the red were blue instead though. No.90021 in revised Railfreight "triple grey" livery, with Railfreight Distribution sector markings. Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread . I am confident I could design a better package in a few hours, and I am not a design professional. RM CN0PKR - Britania 70000 in British Railways Livery at West Somerset Railway, Minehead, UK RM C1N4A7 - Totnes Littlehempston Station with Goods Vehicle in authentic 'British Railways' Livery, Totnes, Devon, England, United Kingdom RM ER5JCR - 46138 Royal Scot Class Steam Locomotive - British Railways L In 1977 two Class 47 locomotives, 47163 and 47164, were painted by Stratford TMD with silver roofs and other decorations including a full body height Union Flag on each side, in celebration of Queen Elizabeth II's silver jubilee. By 2020s Britain, I mean a design that is reflective of modern day marketing and branding. I would rather that operations were branded similar to how they are now, but with a few changes compared with the existing TOC areas as follows: Chiltern Railways renamed as Chiltern & Oxbridge, with brand used on all planned EWR services in addition to those from London Marylebone. for some form of co-branding. Of course it's possible to do better, but I'd argue there are bigger priorities as long as the signage is fit for purpose. The colours were chosen to be different from those of any of the "Big Four" pre-nationalisation railway companies while retaining a traditional aspect. The x-height of the lower-case lettering should be equal to the height of the horizontal arms in the symbol, so that the row of text appears to align with them. With the reorganisation of British Railways in the mid-1960s, a complete break with the past was signalled by the introduction of a blue and grey livery which dominated all passenger rolling stock until the mid-1980s, when a new Intercity livery (dark grey and beige with a red and white waistband) was introduced along with a number of regional colour schemes. After contacting GBRTT (Transition Team), I have been informed of their intention to create a new livery. He branded the Prime Minister an English nationalist, who was prepared to ignore Northern Ireland as the Conservatives have no electoral stake in the Province. At the formation of British Railways on 1 January 1948, early diesel and electric locos and the gas turbine locomotives 18000 and 18100 were already painted black with aluminium trim, but by the late 1950s this had been superseded by the same shade of green that was used on express passenger steam locomotives, although some locomotives were painted in a two-tone Brunswick and Sherwood green livery, and Southern Region electric locomotives were painted a light shade of malachite green. [5] As Rail Blue was introduced, the last locomotive recorded as being outshopped in a previous livery was Class 43 D838 Rapid which left Swindon Works in August 1968 in maroon. A nod to the past in the liveries would be nice like with the modern GWR too. They are an intercity operator. This isn't true, there have been subtle changes. I don't think the red understripe would appear though, and there will still be calls from TfGM, WYCA TfWM, TfW, etc. Home Forums Within a period of 10 years, HSTs had three different liveries. JavaScript is disabled. Differences should merely be factual, not corporate. The FT reports: The reforms will still allow private companies to run services but they will instead work under a more prescriptive management contract, similar to the system in place on the London Overground.. But do you think Queen Nicola would accept trains branded as "Rail England" coming across the border? "Great" means "large", not "very good". Not the terms I would have used but I see where you might get that impression. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Great Britain is not a country; its a landmass. The Great British Railways Transition Team is developing a range of rail freight growth target options. Now the charge of English nationalism is a tedious, largely Remainer trope that I have dealt with elsewhere. It'll be operated quite differently. All Class 42 "Warship" class diesels were delivered in green but some Class 52s were delivered in maroon to match the then-standard coaching stock livery. But Beatties second charge is more interesting. 3,609. thomalex said: One of the big ones is an end to endless rebranding of trains when the operator changes with various bit of old livery hanging about for a long time, never mind the cost and waste involved. A railway works best as a single unit. [17] This livery is also often nicknamed 'toothpaste livery' by rail enthusiasts due to the multicoloured stripes resembling striped toothpaste. Northern and TPE split into separate Northwest and Northeast brands. Creating a separate thread for this as it's quite a big topic, potentially. From 1974, some DMU sets, after being refurbished, were painted white with a wide blue band under the windows and full yellow ends. The wholly superior vision of the Campaign for Equal Citizenship is long abandoned. When British Rail operations were divided into sectors in the mid-1980s, prior to privatisation, a new version of the Railfreight livery emerged giving the sectors individual identities. European paint code RAL5020 ("Ocean Blue") is a good match to Rail Blue. it remains to be seen if their just gonna bite the bullet and conform the entirety of rolling stock on the GBR network to a nice Blue and Cream livery. Then theres the question of livery. I could see those different types of logos being used across scenarios. A bit like this but without the fuzzy outline on the text and double arrow (caused by MS Paint's paint bucket tool): Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; I had a play around with this, and I agree, it looks. Find out more Contact us Freedom of Information Jobs at GBRTT Media Sign up for GBRTT News Privacy and GDPR Terms and conditions Due to the consequent muddle of liveries, many trains began to get an untidy if not tatty appearance which added to the run-down image of the railway. Question for the designers. Great British Railways: Livery, branding and appearance? White letters on a navy background is the way to go. The British Railway official livery for meat & fish vans (and other stock which normally travelled in passenger trains) was originally crimson with yellow lettering. Incorrect: Britain and Great Britain are synonymous, referring to either the largest island of the British Isles (in a geographical context) or the countries of England, Scotland and Wales (in a political context). Steam locomotive 61306 Mayflower seen just outside Sittingbourne, Kent at lunchtime today. That's what happens when small-minded people look back on a classic that was before their time with a warped sense of populism. Rail Express Systems was the sector of British Rail responsible for transport of mail and parcels traffic. Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; Im unsure about the livery as such, but if Great British Railways is taken forward, Id expect GBR to feature. The UK, Britain, Great Britain, The British Isles, England - what's the difference? But then every time I look at a train, I'll think of a bus. The new livery was used with the introduction of the Hastings Line electrification in 1986 to promote new electric trains on that line. As part of this work, the team engaged with industry through a formal call for evidence. It's good work (and the previous set). Instead, I just added an icon next to the full text and removed it from the main station name. [4] This was referred to as the InterCity Executive livery as the sets used were dedicated to operating morning/evening services operated for businesspeople. Then why was the old version called British Railways, not Great British Railways, and why the change now for the new version if British Railways worked? For Station signage that is supposed to be functional and informative above all else, I don't see too much wrong with this. If you run across land borders you're going to get it. though we may have to wait for a new govt for that to happen. A corporate livery was created for major express services in Scotland, which effectively consisted of the InterCity livery with the red stripe replaced by a light blue one. Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread . Not sure but I was also thinking of the winding up arrangements that would've taken place at privatisation i.e. I never knew I had OCD until that remark lol. In terms of changing the background colour - I was going to go with a navy blue, but then it wouldn't integrate with any part of the design system I had in my head, so I opted not to. Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; It really wouldn't. For me, it's time to sign off from the Great Western Railway Line. It looks like BR. Theres no vote in Northern Ireland for him or his Conservative party so he doesnt care, hes hands off.. Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; Heh. Great Western Railways/British Railway Western Region. The Double Arrow is used for stations on maps, so that's really a no-brainer frankly. Today I would like to make a rather general suggestion rather than something specific. I tried going with the National Rail icon in the right hand side, but it was too small and nobody would notice it. Given the furious backlash over the Protocol, as well as the ill-managed disappointment that was the two parties 2010 link-up (under the awful acronym UCUNF), one can understand why Northern Irish politicians shy away from the Tories. For example, GBR will apparently inherit from Network Rail the duty to run and plan the network, as well as providing online tickets, information and compensation for passengers nationwide. This opens up the possibility of a national ticketing app, with the Great British Railways branding. We use cookies. We need more national institutions to give a British shape to life, and GBR should be one of them. One overarching brand, with sub brands sitting below it, for long distance services and regional brands all under the GBR moniker, much like we do today with Southern, South Eastern, South Western, Northern, etc. Introduced in 1965, and also known as "Monastral Blue", the colour was defined by British Rail standards BR28/6001 (Airless spray finish) and BR28/5321 (Brush finish). If it was, that format would not be used by: If you need any proof, they've also just done the same with 'Great British Nuclear'. Heh. I wonder if you could make a hybrid of the two? There is also a British Standard paint colour BS381C 114 called Rail Blue which was introduced in 1964. 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How many people list how attractive a train is when you ask them why they decided to go by car or train? GBR will develop masterplans for station renewal. For locomotives used on internal British Rail duties, a separate livery of a plain darker grey was created. Corridor coaching stock and certain express multiple unit classes were painted in Rail Blue with a 44-inch Pearl Grey (BS 2660-9-095) horizontal panel centred vertically on the main windows, outlined by a narrow white line. Infrastructure, passenger, and freight services were separated at that time. Later regional variations included some interesting changes for the Class8P passenger types in particular. Our railways play a fundamental role in supporting the economic, environmental and social achievements of the country. [citation needed]. Variants to the national brand will be developed to refect the English regions, Scotland and Wales, while emphasising that the railway is one network serving the whole of Great Britain. True. [13] Initially new locos were still painted in the traditional Rail Blue livery, but starting with Class 56 number 56084 the new Large Logo version was standard on new locos delivered to BR. Judging from the signage and station painting they will choose something somewhere between boring and ugly, and we will be stuck with it everywhere, for ages. The creation of Great British Railways (GBR) has been dubbed as the end to "a quarter-century of fragmentation" and a means to provide "accountable national leadership". For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I'm not aware - what are TfW doing? Sadly cream on modern stock looks quite bad, or I suspect one incarnation of GWR might have tried it white might work ok instead. Home Forums In 1964, as part of a plan to develop a new corporate image for British Railways, a number of experiments were tried; Discussions on the livery for British Railways coaching stock in 1948 eventually settled on a network-wide two-tone livery of crimson and cream for corridor coaches, with all-over crimson being used for local, non-corridor stock. [11][12], The location for GBR's headquarters is currently being determined. London Midland (pre LNR), that was white on black but the same idea. ScotRail was the brand name under which British Rail operated passenger services in Scotland and cross border services to Northern England and London. NR do infrastructure in Wales & Scotland, don't they? Dedicated station management teams will be created within regional divisions of GBR to manage stations and land. Job done. I tried going with the National Rail icon in the right hand side, but it was too small and nobody would notice it. GBR will be made up of five regional divisions, organised in line with Network Rail's Putting Passengers First programme. At the moment, the TOC mostly differentiates this. I'm not convinced "InterCity" services warrant different branding now, as they are no longer of premium quality in terms of service provision; in many case they're just regional or commuter services (thinks XC and GWR in particular). The special saloons and a few other special coaches were also repainted in chocolate and cream but regular former GWR coaches carried maroon. I suppose they are quite bland. I might take an example railway station (I'm thinking Rugby) and design signage made for that specific station, to see how things could look practically Not convinced. Likes Received: 1,930. [6], The Vale of Rheidol Railway remained steam operated past the general end of steam traction in 1968; Accordingly the three remaining Vale of Rheidol Railway steam locomotives (Class 98) received the Rail Blue colour scheme and the double arrow logo on their side tanks. It is known as Great because it is the largest island in the British Isles, and houses the countries of England, Scotland and Wales within its shores. This may well take time to introduce and rollout but my suggestion is as follows. Until the introduction of Mk1 catering vehicles in the late '50s, these trains had matching former GWR catering vehicles. Thats a bit like saying everything has been invented, no need for anything more. They were numbered in two series, D5500-D5699 and D5800-D5862. Anyone got a suggestion for the government's latest bright idea today along the same lines, '. Still makes me cringe everytime I see/read 'Great' in front of anything British since this mob got in. The 4REP and 3/4TC EMUs were a notable oddity, initially receiving all-over Rail Blue despite being express corridor stock. Railfreight livery, a colour scheme specifically for freight locomotives, was unveiled when Class 58 58001 drove through a plastic screen at Doncaster Works on 9 December 1982. And the more I see RA2 and its symbols, the more clumsy it looks. The WilliamsShapps plan recommended that there will be a single, unifying brand for railways, and it is expected that this will be a gradual rebranding over time. It may not display this or other websites correctly. One hallmark of the Governments approach to the constitutional struggle to hold the United Kingdom together has been a recognition that pro-Union policy is not simply a matter for a single department: it needs to run throughout the business of the State. OK, it's not a big change, but Germany tends to do rebrandings very infrequently. Plus what is one persons opinion of a great livery will be different to the next. [4] One locomotive, Class 47 No.D1733, was painted to match the coaching stock. One thing that might work, though, would be to drop the full text from the red band and just have a subtle double arrow on the right hand side in that. don't see an issue anywhere, as long as the concessions stay branded with whatever. Erm are you sure about that? Every TfW station I've been to are still ATW-branded (in fact, Hereford yesterday). Because it's not going to be the same as BR. JavaScript is disabled. I think in Germany it is done by using the "TOC" name in place of IC etc. Interesting mock up doublearrow on Twitter just posted: What problem is this supposed to be fixing? Multiple units were also generally green, although this tended to be a lighter and bluer shade compared to the colour used on steam and diesel locomotives. The British Isles in my old school geography books included the island of Ireland but I wouldn't have said that in my recent visit to the country! Also, like I said, it's possible that they legally can't call it BR. Official Description. I still think" Great British Railways" will be mostly likely be termed GBR, most of the time. This has been confirmed by records held at the National Railway Museum. Not even all yellow fronted anymore. There's rather a lot to list if you want to do it completely! The Transport Secretary announced on 19 October 2022 that the Transport Bill which would have set up GBR would not go ahead in the current parliamentary session.[2]. 1 Pre-corporate liveries 2 Early liveries 2.1 Coaching stock from 1948 2.2 The second phase 2.3 XP64 3 Rail Blue 3.1 Locomotives 3.2 Coaches and multiple units 3.3 Local variations 4 Moving away from Rail Blue 5 Sectorisation 5.1 InterCity 5.2 Network SouthEast 5.3 Regional Railways 5.4 Rail Express Systems 5.5 Railfreight Pre-corporate liveries The signs look good, if a bit bland and functional. Class 35 'Hymek' D7017 restored to 1960's green & lime livery. Just like when a new TOC has taken on a franchise, the old TOC name gets removed and the new TOC name gets badged in top, like a big rectangular sticker. Beattie acknowledges how Ulsters separate unionist parties weaken the Union. Not so much the modern LNER though. Search for a trade mark - Intellectual Property Office (ipo.gov.uk), https://twitter.com/MrTimDunn/status/912009372292780033, Somewhere along the West Anglia Main Line. [7], GBR will use a slightly modified British Rail Double Arrow and the Rail Alphabet 2 typeface for branding. If they are going down the GBR route, which is just nationalisation with extra steps, it needs to look the part (the national part, not the extra steps part). Also, yes, the actual report has a typo, it really does say 'refect' instead of 'reflect'. Budgets and delivery will be held at the local level as well as at the national level. InterCity (or, in the earliest days, the hyphenated Inter-City) was introduced by British Rail in 1966 as a brand-name for its long-haul express passenger services (see British Rail brand names for a full history).. I'll give you an opportunity to make up a better more modern scheme then. Some franchise brand names are good, such as Trans Pennine Express, but perhaps those longer distance brands might be lost to one all encompassing GBR brand. Thus Class 47 47170 County of Norfolk, allocated to Stratford and a regular performer on trains between Liverpool Street and Norwich, was painted in Large Logo livery. Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread . This colour was applied to all diesel and electric locomotives, with the exception of the ends, which were painted yellow to improve visibility, and the underframes and buffer beams which were painted black; the paints being to BSS 2660-0.003 and BSS 2660-9.103 respectively. Finsbury Park. BR's first standard locomotive liveries, adopted from 1949 onwards. I wonder if we might actually see things like "Northern - by Great British Railways" rather than one single overarching branding. 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